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"So youre saying no one can say what is a right or isnt. "
That's exactly what I saying. It's all relative and always changing.
There was no idea right to free speech throughout most of history. It was only with the emergence of liberalism a few hundred years ago that it became acceptable.
- yes rights are man made. rule is survival of fittest. i know that i skipped over that thinkign we were talking in context of modern societydeathboy
- that was the context in which i asked the question of blue and made my statement on greece edu commentdeathboy
- and if the context your talkign about is applied to the greece edu, then there isnt such thigns as rights so they would be wrongdeathboy
- wrong for declaring such things. just a lot of whining and blah blahdeathboy
- I think you misunderstood. I'm not saying the lack of any natural rights means we shouldn't have any.abettertomorrow
- People as a society should figure that out for themselves.abettertomorrow
- One thing that is worth mentioning is that in the UK, for instance, these policies really don't have much supportabettertomorrow
- The conservatives only got 35% of the vote in the last electionabettertomorrow
- They formed a coalition with the Liberals, but the Libs had run their whole campaign saying they opposed raising student feesabettertomorrow
- fees. Then when they got into government they suddenly reversed.abettertomorrow
- and how would one claim edu as a natural right? yea i probably am missing what your sayingdeathboy
- So it is the elites forcing the policies on people whether they want them or notabettertomorrow
- yea fuck the UK gov. most governments in general. they have forgotten there placesdeathboy
- There's no natural rights, but people should be able to decide these things and not a few people in governmentabettertomorrow
- but natural rights are fundamental for a proper modern society. if not its jsut obligarchydeathboy
- I just can't really go along with the "natural" part...that seems to imply God came down from heaven and made the decisionabettertomorrow
- Yes, we need rights, but we can decide what they areabettertomorrow