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    "So youre saying no one can say what is a right or isnt. "

    That's exactly what I saying. It's all relative and always changing.

    There was no idea right to free speech throughout most of history. It was only with the emergence of liberalism a few hundred years ago that it became acceptable.

    • yes rights are man made. rule is survival of fittest. i know that i skipped over that thinkign we were talking in context of modern societydeathboy
    • that was the context in which i asked the question of blue and made my statement on greece edu commentdeathboy
    • and if the context your talkign about is applied to the greece edu, then there isnt such thigns as rights so they would be wrongdeathboy
    • wrong for declaring such things. just a lot of whining and blah blahdeathboy
    • I think you misunderstood. I'm not saying the lack of any natural rights means we shouldn't have any.abettertomorrow
    • People as a society should figure that out for themselves.abettertomorrow
    • One thing that is worth mentioning is that in the UK, for instance, these policies really don't have much supportabettertomorrow
    • The conservatives only got 35% of the vote in the last electionabettertomorrow
    • They formed a coalition with the Liberals, but the Libs had run their whole campaign saying they opposed raising student feesabettertomorrow
    • fees. Then when they got into government they suddenly reversed.abettertomorrow
    • and how would one claim edu as a natural right? yea i probably am missing what your sayingdeathboy
    • So it is the elites forcing the policies on people whether they want them or notabettertomorrow
    • yea fuck the UK gov. most governments in general. they have forgotten there placesdeathboy
    • There's no natural rights, but people should be able to decide these things and not a few people in governmentabettertomorrow
    • but natural rights are fundamental for a proper modern society. if not its jsut obligarchydeathboy
    • I just can't really go along with the "natural" part...that seems to imply God came down from heaven and made the decisionabettertomorrow
    • Yes, we need rights, but we can decide what they areabettertomorrow

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