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- DaveO7
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Adding on to the AI discourse above, i saw this article this morning:
https://www.nytimes.com/interact…
Quite an interesting read with the examples of very Gen X careers (Rock & Roll music journalist was the clearest). Weirdly it reminded me of everyones obsession with learning flash and code in the late 90s. It definitely struck me to read things like 'graphic design / photography' in the lead, but its the same story where successive generations have a different landscape to the previous, and the winners adapt.
My wife used to work on music videos as a stylist in the mid 2000s and they had seemingly infinite money. 10 years later that industry as a fraction of what it was, and then another 10 later and its barely an industry. She is in a corpirate creative director role now, as the styling fell off very sharply after 2012
I am constantly hearing older colleagues talk about how different it was back then when they had real money to do shoots, how they shot for a week and came back with amazing 10 stills but that's pretty anachronistic now, and the skill is how you adapt to working with what you have (tools and budget).
I use AI to generate storyboards and style frames, but then i still also get an artist to draw up frames for me when its specific, so its a combination of bot. I feel glad to be able to support a traditional creative skill in some way.
Someone once told me that 'AI won't replace you, but someone using it might'
FWIW – that girl mentioned about sounds like a great business person, but ultimately selling something pretty disposable – and thats been around since the dawn of capitalism.
- Thank you.monospaced
- My wife sent that to me too! New tools that will only get better each day. We either can adapt and fall under or ride the waves. My 2¢misterhow
- The only ones whining about AI are the creatives it exposed as painfully average on their best day.utopian
- true... tarantino is painfully average...neverscared
- i see a great career in visual arts for trump.. he cant wrap his head around of an UI or brush and colors like bush... but he has the best words.. which makesneverscared
- the nr.1 prompts..neverscared
- “Everyone is an artist”
j.beuysneverscared
- PhanLo3
- Saw this in my feed and refused to click on it. I can just imagine the nonsense and insanity from the anti-vaxxers I'd like to keep what brain-cells I have left_niko
- America is beyond fucked.utopian
- Luckily there are 340,000,000 people in the U.S. It's this guys job to find the most outrageous 20 so you will click and he gets paid.toemaas
- And 160,000,000 of them, subscribe to MAGA ideology and conspiracy theories.utopian
- And some of them are now running the health system.yuekit
- webazoot6
Logo of the Day
Exeter's unassuming Co-op worker leads double life as 'Lord of the Logos'
https://www.devonlive.com/whats-…
- https://archive.ph/J…Salarrue
- Maybe this is what Canoe was looking for with that "lightning strike" font :))grafician
- canoe7
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"Welcome to Europe bro lol... We got wines and mountains and clear waters and shit"
- graficianNot my first time. I lived in Barcelona, visited family in France and went to my sister's engagement party in Ireland. (And lived in Argentina and Peru where of course they don't have any wine, clean water and mountains, especially not in the Andes)
But what I find hilarious about your comment is that I live less than a quarter mile from a Great Lake on a peninsula where we have 20+ vineyards, with rolling hill backdrops covered in apple and cherry orchards with rivers and streams cutting through everything, not to mention a national park 25 minutes away on miles and miles of beaches that run into ski resorts.
But go ahead and keep telling us about your SAT tests that you'd ace while doing shots of whatever Romanians like to drink to get over their inferiority complex.
- nobody nothing
canoe wait I remembered something graf said that time
¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯grafician - Good for you bro, live that beautiful life!grafician
- Are you bragging about a Great Lake? Aren’t they a bit toxicnb
- Only if you’re a misinformed neckbeardmonospaced
- First, I'm not bragging, I'm defending myself against "grafician bullshit" assuming there's no wine, clean water and mountains in the United States.canoe
- 2nd, Lake Eerie can get some bad algal blooms, and I'm sure there's toxicity around certain industrial areas, but in general no, we eat whitefish, walleye, etc.canoe
- A lot of people don’t grasp how vast and beautiful and pristine a lot of the USA is, because they only hear about the big cities and suburbs.monospaced
- https://www.google.c…canoe
- nobody nothing
- Horp6
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Bouncing off Jagara's thoughts about ai and commercial illustration in a previous post below...
I think it's already over. It's already killed that industry. It's tangential but feels relevant to say that I've fairly recently got to know somebody with *absolutely zero* experiemce in art, illustration, creative industries (literally not from any relatable world to image making) but she now uses ai to prompt up artwork that she sells as drop shipped items via Etsy and many ither places.
She's gone from knowing nothing at all but being curious, to creating ranges of prints, clothing brands, homeware brands, soft furnishing brands, and setting up online retail, retaining a team of helpers around the world to do her marketing, her social media, and to create websites with all the shopper stuff to order and pay.
She's been doing it for just two years as a side hustle but is now looking to quit her job to focus on it full time.
Everything is copyright free, and she doesn't need to know how to create any of the images. She just picks a theme, describes the vibe, and then chooses what she wants to add to her retail points.
I can look at it all and be sniffy, saying she isn't the actual artist, but that's pointless at this point now. After her day of work, with almost zero effort, she can generate 30 artworks and have them shown on product and available to order in a matter of a few hours.
To create just 1 artwork would take me 1 day, and it might not be any good, and people might not like it, and they might say "can that part be red and could that say something else?" and I'd have to it all again to comply.
This new situation re-separates art from commerce once more; a distinction blurred when Pear's Soap first commissioned an artist to paint them a portrait for use as an advertisement.
Now there is commercial image, made with appropriate economy for the task in hand, and there is art... valuable for being human made and one of a kind and purchased because it appeals to the buyer.
I can't help thinking that's okay, and is what has always happened.
Sure, I feel sad for all the commercial illustrators no longer able to rely on that as a career; but I saw the writing on the wall back in 2008 and got out. Sometimes it's necessary to accept that a career line has closed down and to seek out a new one.
My friend who I mentioned at the start of this post received a production sample of a range of kitchen glassware she's decided to do when I was at her house. It arrived Saturday lunchtime.
She had prompted up the designs a week earlier, sourced a factory to produce them, and then they sent her a vintage looking glass sippy cup with etched and coloured graphics on it. For free. Less than two weeks after she submitted her range design. It's exactly as per her visual. The product design, and the graphical branding/illustration.
It's immaculate. She's not spent a single penny getting to that point, and as of now 24 hours later that range is on Etsy and other places, and she's taking orders. The factory produce what she needs and send it out directly with her branding and packaging.
She does nothing.
How is anybody going to compete with that? With your quality? With your uniqueness? With your skill? With your training?
- It's all about ideation now. That's it. We can still own that domain, should we choose to. But we don't, because it's Wrong.Nairn
- Inspiring storynb
- I agree it's not inspiring for the creative community, but it's happening. It's am economic and commercial reality. Very little has true value in this paradigm.Horp
- My friend literally conjures up entire ranges, and factories around the world can produce them on demand. It's not just the creative community...Horp
- facing oblivion, it's mass production, marketing, retail, trade, distribution, mamagement... the labour market, the working class, the middle class...Horp
- all of it facing redundancy and oblivion. But if you want to start selling kites or light fittings or watches or pet accessories or vases, you can, instantly.Horp
- So AI slop goes irl mainstreamgrafician
- < this story is most probably an exception, no proof this will be the norm going forward, so can we chill?grafician
- This girl's real talent seems to be hustle and drive. Hope success comes to anyone putting in effort.BonSeff
- I think there are actually a lot of people like this if you look on sites like Etsy. The quality of the stuff is not that great but they are just reallyyuekit
- dedicated to marketing like BonSeff said. But there are so many different things people need design and illustration for and I'm not convinced everyone is goingyuekit
- to be using the same AI image generators.yuekit
- Thing is, even this is not safe. Soon you'll be able to ask an AI agent to all this for you. At that point why would anyone pay for a sippy cup on Etsy, ...skinny_puppy
- When they can get something even more personalized generated and produced by a team of agents. The only one winning in that world is the factory.skinny_puppy
- There will be likely be a backlash at some point and some people will come to value hand made things that cannot be produced in a factory.skinny_puppy
- its about about stylisation.. how can u bring the a.i to a point that it doesnt look like all the other a.i stuffneverscared
- i agree the factory will be even more superior... and that will create and anti-market for most...neverscared
- It seems to me that so is a step change in efficiency for an illustrator. The same illustrator that did one piece will now be expected to do 10 or 20 or 100.monNom
- He’ll be able to do it with the so tool. Guiding the style and the content and thinking. The end user will get a richer experience, and in more places.monNom
- Case in point, I stumbled into a documentary about a canal in Canada. - very niche. It featured what looked like ai map art. Animation. Historical illustrationsmonNom
- The production quality was far in excess of what would make sense for that content a few years ago. AI makes it possible for a small crew to make big things.monNom
- Curious to see her shop. But I disagree with you in that she does put in tons of work in managing marketing and production plus don’t forget the biggest_niko
- Thing which is her taste, she’s obviously able to create things in a style that is appealing and sells which is the biggest hurtle and her real talent._niko
- Exactly.
"with almost zero effort"
"She does nothing"
Her effort and work are elsewhere as are her rewards.palimpsest - She merits her success by the parameters you are judging success on.palimpsest
- One way to look at this is if you just dove in and used AI to the maximal extent possible, what could you achieve?yuekit
- In the words of Ivan Drago: "If we die, we die".palimpsest
- i_monk6
Elon Musk
Deactivated my twitter account today. I rarely checked / posted anyway.
- a bot will take over and post on behalf of youzaq
- ^ this
old profiles are very valuable lolgrafician - in way way, lol?jagara
- It's not so bad if you mute all the Slavo Ukraini imbeciles... Unfortunately you can't do that with neverscared on this site :-/Khurram
- very,very, very unfortunate ...especially when u r a into fighting sports and got too many punches to the head and now u have no more neurons left...neverscared
- Bye, dumbassbigrobot
- @grafician sorry mistyped: "In what way?" As new bot accounts?jagara
- Depending on followers, creation date, id name, yeah you can sell for high numbersgrafician
- Just like domainsgrafician
- BusterBoy6
Signs your getting old?
Was at a party on Saturday night...there was a former TV presenter there....she's 64 fucking years old...and she was gorgeous!
Yeah, yeah...marychain vibes.
- Your post perfectly captures the spirit of this thread ;)OBBTKN
- GILF!ideaist
- At some point you realize, they aren't milfs, they're just women your age.lemmy_k
- Did you close?bainbridge
- Akagiyama2
- DIS, WTF is DAT?utopian
- One scoop of each.MrT
- definitely thisscruffics
- dat every time. i hates ice cream i does.hans_glib
- Def DisKrassy
- Ananusmilfhunter
- DISmilfhunter
- utopian1
The More You Know ★
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Lick my pussy and my crack
My neck, my back
Lick my pussy and my crackThen, you roll your tongue
From the, crack back to the front
Then ya, suck it all 'til I shake and cum, nigga
Make sure I keep bustin' nuts, nigga
Then, you roll your tongue
From the, crack back to the front
Then ya, suck it all 'til I shake and cum, nigga
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My neck, my back
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- TUUUUUUNEIanbolton
- added to tomorrow's work playlistbezoar
- https://i.imgur.com/…Akagiyama
- ok_not_ok2
- https://i.imgur.com/…Akagiyama
- citrus whatnow?hans_glib
- now they call it citrus...maquito
- renderedred3
TESLA
Nikola Tesla must be turning in his grave after what Elon Musk has done with his name.
- you key cars for surehotroddy
- No I don't, but I respect Nikola Tesla immensely.renderedred
- of course you do. you're unhinged.hotroddy
- maybe you should read and research a bit what Nikola Tesla did for humanity? unhinged?renderedred
- jagara2
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Not making a novel point here, but...
I think in the very near future, I think for the vast majority of mainstream uses, most non-discerning people without knowledge and respect for art (most people) will just use AI instead of hiring an illustrator. Good AI stuff - at least in the eyes of most people - looks ranging from "fine" and "adequate" to "great".
And it's cheap or free.
"Hire and illustrator? Yeah, and let's hire a scribe to write out our emails, too. Jeez."
Saddening...
- It was amazing how quickly illustrators I know who did covers and for indie bands said their work just disappeared once AI got just about good enoughPhanLo
- I worked as a commercial illustrator from about 2003-2008, and in my experience it all started to die then, long before AI. The dominance of digital...Horp
- pocketable media dictated style rules that meant almost anyone could do a passable illustration. The arc of descent already existed in 2010.Horp
- It was a total failure on Apple devices, there is no commercial use for generative AI.grafician
- Trends change. Can't expect handrawn style that was trendy in the 90's to still be hot. Just as the flat minimalist characters with huge limbs are dying out.NBQ00
- AI can emulate and recycle what's been done but good illustrators who can innovate or have a very distinct style will still be successfulNBQ00
- @NBQ00 just talking about human illustrators, both analog and digital.jagara
